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	<title>Comments on: CTA&#8217;s bus cuts in perspective</title>
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		<title>By: Rich McCallister</title>
		<link>http://westnorth.com/2007/10/15/bus-route-cuts-in-perspective/#comment-10439</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich McCallister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good write-up. So depressing....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good write-up. So depressing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bad timing &#171; west north</title>
		<link>http://westnorth.com/2007/10/15/bus-route-cuts-in-perspective/#comment-10312</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad timing &#171; west north</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Last week&#8217;s hackneyed analysis was criticized in some quarters for not looking at the particular areas in which service would be cut. I&#8217;ve isolated 33 bus routes to be cut which terminate downtown (not counting the impact of cutting connecting services out in the neighborhoods, notably a number of Northwest Side and Evanston routes connecting to the Blue and Purple Lines, respectively); these carried 132,723 passengers on an average September 2006 weekday. Compare that to the 287,000 cars [or 574,000 car trips] entering downtown on an average weekday. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Last week&#8217;s hackneyed analysis was criticized in some quarters for not looking at the particular areas in which service would be cut. I&#8217;ve isolated 33 bus routes to be cut which terminate downtown (not counting the impact of cutting connecting services out in the neighborhoods, notably a number of Northwest Side and Evanston routes connecting to the Blue and Purple Lines, respectively); these carried 132,723 passengers on an average September 2006 weekday. Compare that to the 287,000 cars [or 574,000 car trips] entering downtown on an average weekday. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: paytonc</title>
		<link>http://westnorth.com/2007/10/15/bus-route-cuts-in-perspective/#comment-10311</link>
		<dc:creator>paytonc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and &lt;a href=&quot;http://thecapitolfaxblog.com/2007/10/30/grand-plan-or-recipe-for-disaster/#comment-1619511&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another&lt;/a&gt;. Getting wackier.

Pluto responded to Nyborg [saying that drivers complaining about gas prices &lt;em&gt;chose&lt;/em&gt; their fates by choosing to live in auto dependent locations] thusly: &quot;public transit riders have also elected to live where the transportation is convenient for them and their daily routes.&quot; Well, yes. That&#039;s because we assumed (falsely, you would say) that such services would continue into the future. In my case, I think that was a reasonable assumption -- given that &lt;i&gt;six generations of Chicagoans&lt;/i&gt; have relied on the #56 Milwaukee bus, in one form or another, &lt;i&gt;since the Civil War&lt;/i&gt;.

By that same logic, I should immediately cease use of my toilet and use a chamber pot instead, because the good taxpayers of the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District could &lt;i&gt;at any moment&lt;/i&gt; shut off my neighborhood&#039;s sewer lines. [After all, the sewers arrived &lt;i&gt;long after&lt;/i&gt; the Milwaukee line.]

I&#039;m sure that news will come much to the chagrin of my downstairs neighbors. Well, they&#039;ll just have to grin and bear it, because it&#039;s all in the name of Lower Taxes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and <a href="http://thecapitolfaxblog.com/2007/10/30/grand-plan-or-recipe-for-disaster/#comment-1619511" rel="nofollow">another</a>. Getting wackier.</p>
<p>Pluto responded to Nyborg [saying that drivers complaining about gas prices <em>chose</em> their fates by choosing to live in auto dependent locations] thusly: &#8220;public transit riders have also elected to live where the transportation is convenient for them and their daily routes.&#8221; Well, yes. That&#8217;s because we assumed (falsely, you would say) that such services would continue into the future. In my case, I think that was a reasonable assumption &#8212; given that <i>six generations of Chicagoans</i> have relied on the #56 Milwaukee bus, in one form or another, <i>since the Civil War</i>.</p>
<p>By that same logic, I should immediately cease use of my toilet and use a chamber pot instead, because the good taxpayers of the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District could <i>at any moment</i> shut off my neighborhood&#8217;s sewer lines. [After all, the sewers arrived <i>long after</i> the Milwaukee line.]</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that news will come much to the chagrin of my downstairs neighbors. Well, they&#8217;ll just have to grin and bear it, because it&#8217;s all in the name of Lower Taxes!</p>
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		<title>By: paytonc</title>
		<link>http://westnorth.com/2007/10/15/bus-route-cuts-in-perspective/#comment-10284</link>
		<dc:creator>paytonc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>comment at &lt;a href=&quot;http://thecapitolfaxblog.com/2007/10/30/grand-plan-or-recipe-for-disaster/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cap Fax&lt;/a&gt;

As I&#039;ve said before, &quot;according to AAA’s annual cost-per-mile estimates, the real cost of driving has &lt;i&gt;declined&lt;/i&gt; 9.9% since 1998 (adjusted for inflation). Meanwhile, as of next week, cash CTA fares will have increased 59.6%. We riders are already paying far more than our share.&quot; Even going back to 1986, CTA fares have outpaced inflation -- hardly a way to encourage people to use public transit. (Yes, public transit is a good thing. It promotes clean air and water, saves farmland from urban sprawl, curbs our thirst for oil imported from unstable dictators, increases regional economic productivity, raises regional property values, etc.)

Besides, the truly scary bit isn&#039;t fare hikes, it&#039;s service cuts. 308,262 people a day ride the bus routes that CTA is going to cut by January. 308,262 people will have to rearrange their lives. You worried about how people would get around the collapsed I-35W bridge in Minneapolis? That only affected 140,000 cars a day. We&#039;re talking TWICE as many people here. Even the Kennedy moves fewer than 300,000 passengers a day.

No mass transit system anywhere in the country garners 75% of its revenues from fares.* That&#039;s a fact of life. No public school anywhere in the country pays 75% of its costs from bake sales, either. And another thing: I have been using the system regularly (not daily) for ten years, and I have never seen the overstaffing that people always talk about in these blog comments. Six employees at one station? I&#039;m lucky to find one most of the time.

* Not the USA, but Toronto has a farebox recovery ratio of around 80%. Then again, it can cost $20 in tolls to drive across Toronto, too, and gas costs $3.75 a gallon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>comment at <a href="http://thecapitolfaxblog.com/2007/10/30/grand-plan-or-recipe-for-disaster/" rel="nofollow">Cap Fax</a></p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said before, &#8220;according to AAA’s annual cost-per-mile estimates, the real cost of driving has <i>declined</i> 9.9% since 1998 (adjusted for inflation). Meanwhile, as of next week, cash CTA fares will have increased 59.6%. We riders are already paying far more than our share.&#8221; Even going back to 1986, CTA fares have outpaced inflation &#8212; hardly a way to encourage people to use public transit. (Yes, public transit is a good thing. It promotes clean air and water, saves farmland from urban sprawl, curbs our thirst for oil imported from unstable dictators, increases regional economic productivity, raises regional property values, etc.)</p>
<p>Besides, the truly scary bit isn&#8217;t fare hikes, it&#8217;s service cuts. 308,262 people a day ride the bus routes that CTA is going to cut by January. 308,262 people will have to rearrange their lives. You worried about how people would get around the collapsed I-35W bridge in Minneapolis? That only affected 140,000 cars a day. We&#8217;re talking TWICE as many people here. Even the Kennedy moves fewer than 300,000 passengers a day.</p>
<p>No mass transit system anywhere in the country garners 75% of its revenues from fares.* That&#8217;s a fact of life. No public school anywhere in the country pays 75% of its costs from bake sales, either. And another thing: I have been using the system regularly (not daily) for ten years, and I have never seen the overstaffing that people always talk about in these blog comments. Six employees at one station? I&#8217;m lucky to find one most of the time.</p>
<p>* Not the USA, but Toronto has a farebox recovery ratio of around 80%. Then again, it can cost $20 in tolls to drive across Toronto, too, and gas costs $3.75 a gallon.</p>
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		<title>By: paytonc</title>
		<link>http://westnorth.com/2007/10/15/bus-route-cuts-in-perspective/#comment-10227</link>
		<dc:creator>paytonc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 03:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kinda like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailysouthtown.com/news/opinion/editorials/624568,102907editMetra.article&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Southtown&lt;/a&gt; editorial board&#039;s take on Springfield:

&quot;As we&#039;ve written before, at a time when there should be more financial support for public transportation as the region increases in population and roads become more congested, our elected officials treat it merely as a legislative poker chip. Funding, as we&#039;ve found out in this current legislative session from hell, never is a certainty.

&quot;How can our state leaders be so ignorant about the potential consequences of their inaction? Don&#039;t they see the necessity of public transportation? Considering that very few legislators rely on public transportation, it&#039;s no surprise they are out of touch with the impact it has on millions of citizens. Jobs and businesses are affected, and that in turn impacts the state&#039;s economic health.

&quot;Springfield offers no solution. Instead we get folly after folly. It&#039;s like the ghost of Flo Ziegfeld is controlling things down there.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kinda like the <a href="http://www.dailysouthtown.com/news/opinion/editorials/624568,102907editMetra.article" rel="nofollow">Southtown</a> editorial board&#8217;s take on Springfield:</p>
<p>&#8220;As we&#8217;ve written before, at a time when there should be more financial support for public transportation as the region increases in population and roads become more congested, our elected officials treat it merely as a legislative poker chip. Funding, as we&#8217;ve found out in this current legislative session from hell, never is a certainty.</p>
<p>&#8220;How can our state leaders be so ignorant about the potential consequences of their inaction? Don&#8217;t they see the necessity of public transportation? Considering that very few legislators rely on public transportation, it&#8217;s no surprise they are out of touch with the impact it has on millions of citizens. Jobs and businesses are affected, and that in turn impacts the state&#8217;s economic health.</p>
<p>&#8220;Springfield offers no solution. Instead we get folly after folly. It&#8217;s like the ghost of Flo Ziegfeld is controlling things down there.&#8221;</p>
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