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		<title>By: Neighborhood tours &#171; west north</title>
		<link>http://westnorth.com/2008/02/07/hello-criminal/#comment-16967</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neighborhood tours &#171; west north]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] from Milwaukee writes that, on average, it&#8217;s drivers, not bicyclists, who are the scofflaw criminals on city streets: Get ready for a big shock, but the fact is that people riding bikes are more [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from Milwaukee writes that, on average, it&#8217;s drivers, not bicyclists, who are the scofflaw criminals on city streets: Get ready for a big shock, but the fact is that people riding bikes are more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://westnorth.com/2008/02/07/hello-criminal/#comment-16629</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course more people sleep in beds than ride bicycles, so just looking at the total number of deaths doesn&#039;t adequately compare the risks.  It is funny though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course more people sleep in beds than ride bicycles, so just looking at the total number of deaths doesn&#8217;t adequately compare the risks.  It is funny though.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Scofflaws?&#8221; Scoff. &#171; west north</title>
		<link>http://westnorth.com/2008/02/07/hello-criminal/#comment-16568</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;Scofflaws?&#8221; Scoff. &#171; west north]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] by payton   Something else, posted as comment on Chris Swope&#8217;s Urban Notebook, in the vein of several other [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by payton   Something else, posted as comment on Chris Swope&#8217;s Urban Notebook, in the vein of several other [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Link dump &#171; west north</title>
		<link>http://westnorth.com/2008/02/07/hello-criminal/#comment-16228</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Link dump &#171; west north]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] &#8220;an armistice&#8221; between cyclists and drivers. Valiant, but still seems a touch &#8220;car-headed,&#8221; considering he talked to a major ER&#8217;s chairman who said he&#8217;s seeing &#8220;more [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;an armistice&#8221; between cyclists and drivers. Valiant, but still seems a touch &#8220;car-headed,&#8221; considering he talked to a major ER&#8217;s chairman who said he&#8217;s seeing &#8220;more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: payton</title>
		<link>http://westnorth.com/2008/02/07/hello-criminal/#comment-16067</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[payton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thewashcycle.com/2008/07/the-myth-of-the.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TheWashCycle&lt;/a&gt; has a great post on this topic. &quot;Hello? Kettle? You&#039;re Black!&quot; First off, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10368561&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;drivers&#039; compliance with stop signs is less than 50%&lt;/a&gt;. Then there&#039;s this story: &quot;As a college professor told it to me, &#039;On a campus, campus planners laid out the sidewalk to a building in the shape of an L. Students ignored the sidewalk to walk along the hypotenuse wearing a path in the grass. The school planted hedges to &quot;guide&quot; them. Students cut a rut through them. The school put up a fence. Students climbed over it until the fence broke. Fed up, the school got an architect to design a fix. She tore up the old sidewalk and laid another new one along the path. Problem solved.&#039; [...] The way to end jaybiking violations is to decriminalize them.&quot;

Here&#039;s Lee Watkins&#039; succinct way of &lt;a href=&quot;http://washcycle.typepad.com/home/2008/07/ghost-bike-memo.html#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;summing up the history of traffic laws&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;The purpose of all the traffic lights, signs, and lines - is to prevent CARS from running into everything else.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.thewashcycle.com/2008/07/the-myth-of-the.html" rel="nofollow">TheWashCycle</a> has a great post on this topic. &#8220;Hello? Kettle? You&#8217;re Black!&#8221; First off, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10368561" rel="nofollow">drivers&#8217; compliance with stop signs is less than 50%</a>. Then there&#8217;s this story: &#8220;As a college professor told it to me, &#8216;On a campus, campus planners laid out the sidewalk to a building in the shape of an L. Students ignored the sidewalk to walk along the hypotenuse wearing a path in the grass. The school planted hedges to &#8220;guide&#8221; them. Students cut a rut through them. The school put up a fence. Students climbed over it until the fence broke. Fed up, the school got an architect to design a fix. She tore up the old sidewalk and laid another new one along the path. Problem solved.&#8217; [...] The way to end jaybiking violations is to decriminalize them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Lee Watkins&#8217; succinct way of <a href="http://washcycle.typepad.com/home/2008/07/ghost-bike-memo.html#comments" rel="nofollow">summing up the history of traffic laws</a>: &#8220;The purpose of all the traffic lights, signs, and lines &#8211; is to prevent CARS from running into everything else.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Who&#8217;s really at fault &#171; west north</title>
		<link>http://westnorth.com/2008/02/07/hello-criminal/#comment-15327</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Who&#8217;s really at fault &#171; west north]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] biotic bicycle, car culture &#160;  The ordinance whose introduction by Daley gave rise to &#8220;Hello, Criminal&#8221; made its way through the legislative apparatus. The Tribune apparently thought it wise to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] biotic bicycle, car culture &nbsp;  The ordinance whose introduction by Daley gave rise to &#8220;Hello, Criminal&#8221; made its way through the legislative apparatus. The Tribune apparently thought it wise to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: paytonc</title>
		<link>http://westnorth.com/2008/02/07/hello-criminal/#comment-15220</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paytonc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You mean signs &lt;a href=&quot;http://flickr.com/photos/paytonc/162982690/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;like this&lt;/a&gt;? I should ask my alderman for some of those. Or just buy some already.

Mr. Coca-Cola, it showed up on the web site. Didn&#039;t submit it to &quot;Voice of the People,&quot; since as far as I can tell, Washburn&#039;s original story didn&#039;t make it into print.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean signs <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/paytonc/162982690/" rel="nofollow">like this</a>? I should ask my alderman for some of those. Or just buy some already.</p>
<p>Mr. Coca-Cola, it showed up on the web site. Didn&#8217;t submit it to &#8220;Voice of the People,&#8221; since as far as I can tell, Washburn&#8217;s original story didn&#8217;t make it into print.</p>
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		<title>By: daver</title>
		<link>http://westnorth.com/2008/02/07/hello-criminal/#comment-15219</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[daver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The crosswalk one just kills me.  Here in Milwaukee we&#039;ve taken to putting these collapsible signs in the middle of crosswalks to clue drivers in that they need to stop, but  as a pedestrian you still need to jump into the intersection to get their attention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The crosswalk one just kills me.  Here in Milwaukee we&#8217;ve taken to putting these collapsible signs in the middle of crosswalks to clue drivers in that they need to stop, but  as a pedestrian you still need to jump into the intersection to get their attention.</p>
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		<title>By: PJS</title>
		<link>http://westnorth.com/2008/02/07/hello-criminal/#comment-15205</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PJS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well said Payton, I didn&#039;t see it published, I assume it wasn&#039;t?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said Payton, I didn&#8217;t see it published, I assume it wasn&#8217;t?</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://westnorth.com/2008/02/07/hello-criminal/#comment-15189</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bravo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo.</p>
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